How can Latin America and the Caribbean get to net-zero emissions? Who is responsible for meeting rising energy demand around the world?
These are just some of the questions that will be put to the panelists from across the energy industry at The Great Energy Debate 2021. This year’s theme is: “Energy Transformation Pathways: getting to net zero in Latin America and the Caribbean.”
The debate will be broadcast live on Twitter and LinkedIn on September 27 at 6pm CET. Local timings in Latin America 1pm (BRASILIA / BUENOS AIRES) / 11am (MEXICO / COLOMBIA).
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*Please note the debate will be in English.
MEET THE PANELLISTS

Maarten Wetselaar
Shell’s Integrated Gas, Renewables and Energy Solutions Director. Maarten has worked in various roles since joining the company in 1995. He holds a master’s degree in Economics from the University of Groningen and a post doctorate degree from VU University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands.

Andrea Heins
Andrea Heins is a senior international consultant on energy efficiency, climate change and sustainable development, with more than 20 years of experience in corporate, public policy, consulting, and academic activities. Since November 2019 serves as Chair at the Argentine Committee of the World Energy Council (WEC). She is professor on energy efficiency in different university postgraduate programs.

Jimena Marvan Santin
Jimena is the Executive Director of “Chapter Zero México”, the Mexican Chapter of the World Economic Forum’s Climate Governance Initiative. With more than 20 years of experience as an expert in the Mexican energy sector, specialized in strategic planning, sustainability, risk management, business architecture and external affairs, she has been consultant for the design and startup of non-governmental organisations on energy and sustainability.

Thiago Barral
Since 2019, Thiago Barral is Executive President of the Energy Research Office (EPE), a Brazilian institution responsible for energy planning studies and official energy statistics. He works at EPE since 2007, having served in positions such as Director for Energy Economics and Environmental Studies and Head of the Power Generation Department. Since 2018, he serves as the focal point for Brazil’s engagement at the Clean Energy Ministerial and Mission Innovation and supports collaboration with the IEA and bilateral energy cooperation programmes.
MEET THE HOST

Georgie Barrat
Tech journalist and host of the Gadget Show, Georgie has hosted the debate since 2019.
She reports for ITV Tonight, Good Morning Britain, ITV Weekend and is a regular on James Martin’s Saturday Morning and The Jeremy Vine Show. She is passionate about women working in technology and encourages more girls to be involved in STEM.
SEE THE DEBATE HIGHLIGHTS

The Great Energy Debate returned in 2020
The Great Energy Debate 2019, The Netherlands
Title: The Great Energy Debate : Highlights
Duration : 4:33 minutes
Description:
This video shows the highlights of The Great Energy Debate that took place in November 2019. They discuss climate change and how fossil fuel companies and renewables can deal with the climate change challenges the world faces.
The Great Energy Debate : Highlights Transcript
[Background music plays]
Panelist interviews with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Visscher.
[Paulien Herder]
I think we need to go faster and do more implementation in the industry.
[Video Footage]
We see five speakers sat on a small stage surrounded by an audience we cut to shots of the speakers and the audience. There is a screen behind the speakers with the Great Energy Debate written upon it. This stands in front of blue curtains.
[Maarten Wetselaar]
We can make a significant contribution to the net zero target that the world is after.
[Marco Visscher]
We will not get there by harmonising with nature, but by modernising.
[Video Footage]
Camera sweeps across the front of the audience members. The Great Energy Debate Logo is displayed on boards in front of the seated, theatre style seating. The look is that of a television studio with a live audience. Shots of the audience are intercut with the speakers.
[Ozak Esu]
I see technology and engineering delivering affordable and accessible electricity to all.
[Video Footage]
A video montage over rising music bed. Shots of cities at night and during the day in timelapse. People moving, cars driving through shot. We see Paulien Herder in the shot as we track around her from a low angle. Followed by shots of windmills on a mountain surrounded by clouds, People walking from above with Paulien in Voice Over then the we cut to Paulien stood in the studio where the debate is held with empty chairs behind them before the debate.
[Paulien Herder]
The most important thing in tackling climate change is to start acting now.
[Maarten Wetselaar]
Urgency. Go ahead and make practical steps to reduce CO2 emissions in our energy mix.
[Video Footage]
We see people working on tablets and smart televisions. Followed by a low angle shot of Marco Visscher on the porch of a house and imagery of power plants with talking in VO. Before cutting back to Marco stood in the empty studio.
[Marco Visscher]
We need to be open for all kinds of technological solutions including nuclear power including CCS.
[Video Footage]
Close up footage of Ozak Esu outside with blurred background and a shot of a control room with graphics and unreadable text of the power station schematics building over the top. With Ozak speaking in voice over before cutting to an interview with Ozak in front of the empty studio seating.
[Ozak Esu]
Using the benefits and harnessing the benefits of technology and engineering a lot of solutions and innovations are being developed across the world.
[Video Footage]
We cut between the speakers as they deliver their lines. We slowly track inwards as they speak from head and shoulders. Marco Visscher is against the background of a bookshelves, Ozak Esu is agains a background of houses and trees, Paulien Herder is stood in front of an industrial space.
[Marco Visscher]
The Great
[Ozak Esu]
Energy
[Paulien Herder]
Debate.
[Video Footage]
Maarten Wetselaar delivers his line stood in front of a green park like space with a fence running through it.
[Maarten Wetselaar]
The Great Energy Debate.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London.
[Video footage and graphic]
We track through the audience from left to right as they applaud and hear Remel London in voice over. We then cut to a long shot of the panel sat in the centre of the theatre style seating in the television studio. We then cut to the words The Great Energy Debate appearing on the screen on a blue background with white lines.
[Remel London]
Welcome to the Great Energy Debate.
[Video footage]
We then cut to Remel London walking through the audience with an IPad in her hand. We can see the panel in the top right of the shot as she walks towards them.
[Remel London]
Let’s get talking guys, this is from Vicky van der Togt and they are saying shall we not ban fossil fuels altogether?
[Video footage]
We cut to Marco Visscher in close up on the panel. He wears a flowery, yellow shirt and the back ground is dark. This cuts to Marco speaking in a wide shot featuring the rest of the panel with the TUDelft logo built in 3D in the background and the rest of the panel seated next to him. A screen shows the audience above the panel in the left of frame. We see the close up again and then a shot from in the audience, as if sitting in a seat in the audience with heads between our view and the panel.
[Marco Visscher]
80 per cent of the world’s energy comes from fossil fuels and there is no energy source readily available to scale up, to take over that role now. Nuclear power maybe, I am very much in favour of nuclear.
[Video footage]
Shot of a seated young audience member asking a question looking direct towards us holding a microphone. With a presenter with an ipad and red jacket standing next to her surrounded by other seated audience members.
[Audience Member]
How can we transition in countries that are still not in the grid without going through the fossil fuel path and just going straight to the renewables so that they don't have to have this debate in 20 years time?
[Video footage]
Shot of Ozak Esu sat next to Marco Visscher on the panel. Then cuts to Paulien Herder and Maarten Wetselaar sat listening.
[Ozak Esu]
I definitely think that micro grids is a definite way for places like Nigeria to move forward with energy solving the about accessibility.
Vox Pop of young audience member.
[Video footage]
A vox pop style shot of a young audience member in front of a screen with white speech. Bubbles. It cuts to images of the Paulien Herder and Maarten Wetselaar sat together then a close up of Ozak Esu in session as he completes his interview.
[Second Audience Member]
The best thing about the Great Energy Debate was seeing companies and activists on the same table discussing a very relevant subject: climate change and energy transition.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London, continues.
[Video footage]
There is a close up of the presenter Remel London with the audience in the background asking the question.
[Remel London]
Many people think this isn't a debate and believe the only solution to the climate emergency is ban Shell from existence.
[Video footage]
We have a close up of Maarten Wetselaar sat in his position in the panel, head and shoulders with a black background.
[Maarten Wetselaar]
I think the key trick is to leverage the skill and scale of that company to speed up the energy transition, rather than to ban the company.
Second Vox Pop of young audience member.
[Video footage]
A vox pop style shot of a young audience member in front of a screen with white speech. Bubbles. It cuts to images of an audience member with a beard talking on a microphone in head and shoulders. Then a wider shot with a presenter Georgie Barrat in a red jacket and a second audience member talking to a microphone in a wide shot with other members of the audience sat around.
[Third Audience Member]
I thought the nicest part was the interactive part of it.
[Video footage]
We cut to a close shot of the second audience member talking to the microphone. We then see two wide shots of the whole audience raising green and red paddles up. Then a shot of the Fourth Audience member in a Vox Pop style shot from waist to head in front of the speech bubbles.
[Fourth Audience Member]
It made the audience feel engaged and made me feel like I was a part of this debate.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London, continues.
[Video footage]
We see the panel sat in the centre of the studio with audience members in the foreground. In the background we see a large screen with the great energy debate upon it. To the left and right smaller screens show shots of the audience. We then cut to a shot of the presenter Remel London in the audience looking down towards the panel then turning to the camera.
[Remel London]
So I feel like we've got some heat going on, people want to ask questions.
[Video footage]
We cut to show the fifth and sixth audience members talking into microphones surrounded by other audience members.
[Fifth Audience Member]
Why are we having this debate in 2019 when we’ve know about this issue since 1988?
[Rameen Ghauri]
Should we let oil and gas companies take the lead in the energy transition knowing that they have shareholders profit maximisation on the top of their agenda?
[Emily Leung]
Typically investments in oil and gas have much higher returns than renewables how would oil and gas companies be able to leverage is on renewables?
[Video footage]
We see close up pictures of Maarten Wetselaar intercut with a tracking shot of the panel from behind the audience. Tracking from right to left we see the panel through gaps between the heads.
[Maarten Wetselaar]
Business has a big role to play in creating the future. But it does need to produce things that customers want to buy. And so it's an interplay between society, government and business that needs to get this energy transition going.
[Video footage]
Close up from the side of audience member asking the question. She holds a mic. This is intercut with a shot flying away from a land based windmill with offshore windmills behind followed by a shot flying above a field of solar panels.
[Seventh Audience Member]
There's a lot of talk about switching to renewables and we should accelerate. A lot of critical materials are running out in ten, twenty years.
[Video footage]
Close up on Paulien Herder intercut with shots of the audience listening,
[Paulien Herder]
The material issue, scarcity or impact on the environment is a very, very difficult and important and critical thing to research and to solve. So we need to diversify and find new ways and do research to reduce the materials that you need for each and every energy technology.
[Video footage]
We see the audience clapping. Then cut to a third vox pop. A male delegate stands in front of the speech bubbles.
Voxs Pop of audience members continues.
[Third Vox Pop]
To tackle climate change, I think, bigger steps should be made by the government and more trust should be put in young people.
[Video footage]
We see audience members smiling in close up and then a shot moving from left to right where they raise red and green paddles. There are more red than green paddles. The Great Energy Debate is written across a low wall in front of the audience. As Rameen Ghauri begins speaking we see here sat with three other audience members before cutting to her stood in front of the vox pop wall with speech bubbles behind her.
[Rameen Ghauri]
We all have a part to play in it and we just need to look forward and move towards a better future.
[Video footage]
We see the final vox pop in front of the empty chairs in the auditorium. The lights are on we see empty chairs and the paddles sat on tables in front of the audience. The shots cut to a drone shot travelling over a solar farm, then a close up of the panels below the drone and back to the fourth vox pop interviewee.
[Fourth Vox Pop]
I think if we're going to reach the ambitious goals that we have set, for 2050, whether that’s in the UK or the Paris agreement, we have to somehow get carbon negative or carbon neutral energy sources.
[Video footage]
A drone shot of a forest is cut to then a close up shot of a windmill against a blue sky. Then back to a field of trees looking down from above with the text CO2 appearing and disappearing over the trees. We then cut to a long shot of the panel and the audience from high above looking down from behind the panel and towards the audience. Then to Remel London stood in the audience with the audience behind her. She holds a microphone up and talks into this.
[Remel London]
It's clearly been a great night of debate.
[Video footage]
Georgie Barrat stands in front of the audience in a red jacket as the camera moves from left to right. She waves to us as she finishes her line we cut to a shot of the audience applauding. Then to a shot from high up behind the panel with the audience seated in front of them.
[Georgie Barrat]
Thank you so much and I'll hopefully see you guys soon. The conversation should continue.
[Background music builds and increases in volume]
[Video footage]
The film shows a shot of London from a drone, travelling over the suburbs and a church. Followed by an image of an offshore wind farm from the coast so we see a single foreground windmill on the land and the offshore windfarm beyond.
[Text displays]
The future of energy
[Video footage]
A drone shot rises from behind trees to reveal the canopy of a pine forest. Which cuts to the exterior of a tower block with about half the lights on. These are randomly distributed. We can see the balconys it is a wide shot.
[Text displays]
is everyone’s business.
[Video footage]
A time-lapse drone shot looking down on a city followed by a time-lapse of tower bridge in London with the sun setting behind the shard. Then a street scene of people in a market and a time-lapse on a large street with trees and tower blocks. A woman in a red jump suit and green safety helmet and ear defenders walks away from us through pipes and industrial looking area.
[Text displays]
Continue the debate
[Video footage]
The same woman climbs a flight of stairs. We see her from beneath the stairs with industrial oil rig like structures all around. A drone shot flies away from the woman revealing her amongst pipes and scaffolding. Followed by a shot from behind a windmill, which is turning, with green fields and a blue sky behind.
[Text displays]
Join the conversation
[Video footage]
We see three people walking through the middle of four rows of solar panels from above as the shot slowly rotates. Then we fly across the front of an offshore windfarm with a pink sky and blue sea with several windmills turning. They are white with a yellow base in the sea. This cuts to a shot of two men stood by an electric car charging station followed by an electric car having the plug put into it in close up.
Then a woman in a sari reaches up to turn a light on we see a close up of the bulb going on. The camera tracks along a set of solar panels.
[Text displays]
Have your say
[Video footage]
A wide shot looking down on solar panels then a time-lapse of a busy intersection in a modern city with pedestrian crossings and people waiting as cars cross the intersection the cars stop and pedestrians cross the intersection. Looking down on an intersection at night in time-lapse as cars streak across. We fly towards a windfarm rising above a green and verdant forest.
[Text displays]
The Great Energy Debate
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The Great Energy Debate 2018, Singapore
Title: The Great Energy Debate, Singapore
Duration: 1:43 minutes
Description:
Overview of the Great Energy Debate event held in Singapore in November 2018.
Why can’t the world switch more quickly to renewables? What is the role of technology and innovation in tackling climate change? How can different sectors of society best collaborate? Why should we believe anything large corporations say? Shell’s Integrated Gas and New Energies Director, Maarten Wetselaar, and other energy experts came together at the Singapore University of Technology and Design for a 90-minute livestreamed debate to answer some tough questions.
The Great Energy Debate, Singapore – Transcript
[Background music plays]
Upbeat music starts
[Video]
Camera pans across audience, focusing on a panel of five on stage
[Voice over]
Welcome, panellists, to the Great Energy Debate.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Maarten Wetselaar, Shell Gas & New Energies Director, who is speaking directly to it
[Text]
Maarten Wetselaar, Shell Gas & New Energies Director
Maarten Wetselaar:
I believe that the energy transition is everybody's challenge.
[Video]
Camera focuses on audience member who is speaking into a microphone, asking a question to the panel
Audience member:
How can you expect people to take anything a company says seriously around renewables?
[Video]
Camera focuses on Maarten Wetselaar on stage
Maarten Wetselaar:
New energies can contribute to a lower carbon and cleaner air world, but also they can be commercial. We cannot subsidise our way out of climate change.
[Video]
Camera focuses on a different audience member who is speaking directly to it
Audience member:
I think this debate is really quite insightful.
[Video]
Camera focuses on the same audience member but this time he is speaking into a microphone, asking a question to the panel
Audience member:
Does renewable energy have a smaller carbon footprint than traditional energy sources?
[Video]
Camera focuses on Jade Seah, the host, who is speaking directly to it
[Text]
Jade Seah, Host
Jade Seah:
I think it was very inspiring to see everyone getting involved in The Great Energy Debate.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Jade Seah who has the audience behind her and is reading from a tablet
Jade Seah:
We have someone saying: "How is society going to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement?".
[Video]
Camera focuses on another different audience member who is speaking directly to it
Audience member:
After today's debate, I think maybe we should pay more attention to the adoption of renewable energies.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Changhua Wu, Executive Director of the Beijing Future Innovation Centre, who is speaking directly to it
[Text]
Changhua Wu, Beijing Future Innovation Centre, Executive Director
Changhua Wu:
Climate change is a global challenge. Somehow, with the younger generation on board, there is a great hope.
[Video]
Camera pans across the audience before focusing on Changhua Wu on stage
Changhua Wu:
We all understand the sense of urgency, we know the challenges, we know there are solutions, there are opportunities.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Peter Godfrey, Energy Institute Managing Director for Asia Pacific, who is on stage
[Text]
Peter Godfrey, Energy Institute Managing Director, Asia Pacific
Peter Godfrey:
I do believe the oil and gas industry is working towards a cleaner, greener future.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Peter Godfrey who is now speaking directly to it
Peter Godfrey:
Everybody was prepared to open up and have a sensible conversation about energy.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Maarten Wetselaar on stage
Maarten Wetselaar:
I am not going to apologise for producing oil and gas.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Jay Layug, Senior Partner of Punolaw, who is on stage
[Text]
Jay Layug, Senior Partner of Punolaw
Jay Layug:
No more excuses. We can save the planet and we can protect the environment.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Jay Layug who is now speaking directly to it
Jay Layug:
We have a lot of geothermal, solar, hydro, ocean and wind. We need to utilise them more.
[Video]
Camera focuses on Maarten Wetselaar speaking directly to it
Maarten Wetselaar:
It can be done, but we're not doing it, so a bit more urgency would help if we are going to want to do this quickly.
[Video]
Camera pans across the audience before focusing on Jade Seah who is speaking directly to it, speaking into a microphone
Jade Seah:
Thank you, once again, for being with us and, you know, it's conversations like this that help us to make the future.
[Video]
Camera focuses on audience and panel on stage
[Sound]
Audience clapping
[Graphic]
Fade to white with a Shell logo in the centre
[Text]
#MakeTheFuture, © SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED 2018
[Sound]
Sound of Shell
[Graphic]
Fade to white again with a slightly smaller Shell logo in the centre
[Text]
Subscribe for more, © SHELL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED 2018
[Sound]
A different sound of Shell
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